Colour reference

Permanent Green Deep

21 Permanent Green Deep paints from 13 brands, measured in CIE L*a*b* and compared with Delta E 2000.

Why Permanent Green Deep isn't one colour

Every brand makes its own Permanent Green Deep, and no two are quite the same. They pick different pigments, grind them differently and mix them to their own recipe — so two tubes with the same word on the label can look noticeably different once they are on the paper.

We measured all 21 of them from 13 brands and compared them the way a lab would, using a number called Delta E. It is just a measure of how far apart two colours look to the human eye. Under 2 and almost nobody can tell them apart; over 10 and most people would call them different colours.

Useful when your usual Permanent Green Deep is out of stock and you need the closest substitute, when you are deciding which brand to buy, or when a mix you got right last time will not come out the same again.

How far is each brand from the average?

Every brand's version measured against the average of all 21 paints. Below 2 is imperceptible to most people; above 10 is obviously a different colour.

BrandDistance from the averageIn practice
HolbeinDelta E 1.16Near-identical
MaimeriDelta E 2.03Very close
Michael HardingDelta E 2.46Very close
AmsterdamDelta E 2.95Very close
LukasDelta E 3.24Very close
SennelierDelta E 3.38Very close
Royal TalensDelta E 3.42Very close
WilliamsburgDelta E 3.83Very close
SchminckeDelta E 3.93Very close
Winsor & NewtonDelta E 4.44Very close
LiquitexDelta E 4.61Very close
Daler-RowneyDelta E 5.02Noticeably different
AtelierDelta E 6.65Noticeably different

Which brands are interchangeable?

The closest pairs among 78 brand comparisons - swap one for another and most people would not see the difference.

  • AmsterdamvsMichael HardingDelta E 1.13Near-identical
  • Royal TalensvsWilliamsburgDelta E 1.35Near-identical
  • Royal TalensvsSennelierDelta E 1.38Near-identical
  • SchminckevsSennelierDelta E 1.60Near-identical
  • MaimerivsRoyal TalensDelta E 1.93Near-identical
  • Daler-RowneyvsSennelierDelta E 2.07Very close

Which brands are clearly different?

The furthest apart. Same name on the tube, visibly different paint.

  • AteliervsDaler-RowneyDelta E 11.41Clearly different
  • AteliervsSchminckeDelta E 10.33Clearly different
  • AteliervsWilliamsburgDelta E 10.05Clearly different
  • AteliervsSennelierDelta E 9.99Noticeably different
  • AteliervsRoyal TalensDelta E 9.99Noticeably different
  • Daler-RowneyvsLiquitexDelta E 9.21Noticeably different

Pigments used

Brands do not always use the same pigment for the same colour name.

PB15, PY74

Atelier

PG36, PBk9

Winsor & Newton

PG36, PY110

Sennelier

PG36, PY3

Royal Talens, Sennelier, Williamsburg

PG36, PY42

Liquitex, Michael Harding, Royal Talens

PG36,PY3

Winsor & Newton

PG36,PY42

Holbein

PG7, PY3

Lukas

PG7, PY42

Daler-Rowney, Liquitex

PG7,PY3

Schmincke, Sennelier

PG7,PY74

Amsterdam

PY175, PG7, PB15:1

Maimeri

Lightfastness

How well the colour resists fading. ASTM I is the most permanent; V is fugitive.

I

Amsterdam, Atelier, Daler-Rowney, Holbein, Liquitex, Lukas, Maimeri, Michael Harding, Royal Talens, Schmincke, Sennelier, Williamsburg, Winsor & Newton

Opacity

How much the paint covers what is underneath.

Opaque

Winsor & Newton

Semi-Opaque

Amsterdam, Holbein, Liquitex, Lukas, Maimeri, Schmincke, Sennelier, Winsor & Newton

Semi-Transparent

Amsterdam, Atelier, Daler-Rowney, Liquitex, Michael Harding, Royal Talens, Sennelier, Williamsburg, Winsor & Newton

Available in

The kinds of paint this colour is made as.

Closest other colours

If you cannot get this one, these sit nearest to it across the same brands.

Every Permanent Green Deep we have measured

All 21 paints, with the measurements the comparisons above are built from.

BrandLineMedium HexL*a*b*PigmentOpacityLightfastness
AmsterdamExpert Seriesacrylic#19734b42.7, -35.8, 14.9PG7,PY74Semi-OpaqueI
AmsterdamStandard Seriesacrylic#19733242.3, -40.7, 28.5PG7,PY74Semi-TransparentI
AtelierA2 Lightfastacrylic#056b4139.5, -37.0, 16.4PB15, PY74Semi-TransparentI
Daler-RowneyAquafinewatercolor#37874650.2, -39.1, 27.7PG7, PY42Semi-TransparentI
HolbeinHeavy Body Acrylicacrylic#237d4146.2, -40.3, 25.2PG36,PY42Semi-OpaqueI
LiquitexProfessional Heavy Bodyacrylic#3e764144.8, -30.5, 23.6PG7, PY42Semi-OpaqueI
LiquitexSoft Bodyacrylic#00694638.8, -35.4, 12.5PG36, PY42Semi-TransparentI
LukasBerlin Water-Mixable Oiloil#2d763043.8, -38.0, 31.5PG7, PY3Semi-OpaqueI
MaimeriClassicooil#377d4146.8, -35.7, 26.1PY175, PG7, PB15:1Semi-OpaqueI
Michael HardingArtists Oil Coloursoil#23733c42.7, -37.1, 23.5PG36, PY42Semi-TransparentI
Royal TalensRembrandt Oil Colorsoil#377d3446.6, -37.6, 32.8PG36, PY3Semi-TransparentI
Royal TalensVan Goghwatercolor#37824148.5, -37.8, 28.2PG36, PY42Semi-TransparentI
SchminckeAKADEMIE Acrylicacrylic#23823747.8, -43.8, 32.5PG7,PY3Semi-OpaqueI
SennelierAbstract Acrylicacrylic#237d3746.0, -42.0, 30.4PG7,PY3Semi-OpaqueI
SennelierArtists' Oil Colorsoil#3c824148.6, -36.5, 28.5PG36, PY3Semi-TransparentI
SennelierExtra-Fine Acryliqueacrylic#28823c47.9, -42.1, 30.1PG7,PY3Semi-OpaqueI
Sennelierl'Aquarellewatercolor#37874650.2, -39.1, 27.7PG36, PY110Semi-TransparentI
WilliamsburgHandmade Oil Colorsoil#377d3446.6, -37.6, 32.8PG36, PY3Semi-TransparentI
Winsor & NewtonDesigners Gouachegouache#00805c47.2, -39.4, 11.2PG36, PBk9OpaqueI
Winsor & NewtonGaleriaacrylic#00694638.8, -35.4, 12.5PG36, PBk9Semi-TransparentI
Winsor & NewtonProfessional Acrylicacrylic#00783743.8, -44.2, 27.6PG36,PY3Semi-OpaqueI
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